Hosted by: Alice Gage

Guests: Professor Tim Flannery, Sam Elsom and Dr Mariko Smith




If, like us, you’re anxious about the climate emergency, tune in: this episode is all about the gaining of wisdom in an uncertain world. We look to science, innovation and First Nations knowledges to learn how one young Australian is detoxifying the ocean and atmosphere, and what the world’s oldest link between humans and the land can teach us about managing the environment.

In his 2021 Australian Museum Talbot Oration, Professor Tim Flannery calls for solutions. One of those is floating out at sea – a native seaweed called asparogopsis, which when fed to cows substantially reduces their methane emissions.

Another solution is listening to First Nations Peoples, whose successful stewardship of Country for time immemorial saw both people and the environment thrive. Australian Museum First Nations curator Dr Mariko Smith discusses what one new acquisition – the Kimberley Boab Nut Collection – can teach us about this legacy.



About the guests

Professor Tim Flannery


Professor Tim Flannery is the Distinguished Visiting Fellow focused on researching the impacts of climate change and raising awareness of the issues, especially impacts on biodiversity and our coastal environments. He is an internationally acclaimed scientist, author, explorer and conservationist.

In recognition of his work on the Climate Commission and the Climate Council, he was recently awarded the Geddes Environment Medal by the Royal Scottish Geographical Society. His latest book, The Climate Cure: Solving the Climate Emergency in the Era of COVID-19 (Text Publishing, 2020), is available to buy online at the AM Shop.


Climate change leadership team

Professor Tim Flannery, Distinguished Visiting Fellow focused on researching the impacts of climate change.

Image: Abram Powell
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Dr Mariko Smith


Dr Mariko Smith is a Yuin woman and Manager, First Nations Collections & Engagement at the Australian Museum. Mariko focuses on Indigenous community-based cultural resurgence initiatives and incorporating Indigenous ways of knowing into curatorial and artistic practices.

Mariko holds a combined Bachelor degree in Arts and Laws (University of Sydney), a Master of Museum Studies (University of Sydney) and Doctor of Philosophy from the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences (University of Sydney). Her PhD thesis focused on the cultural resurgence of Aboriginal tied-bark canoe making in south-eastern Aboriginal communities. Mariko is an Honorary Associate in the School of Literature, Art & Media at the University of Sydney.


Dr Mariko Smith in Unsettled

Dr Mariko Smith is a Yuin woman and Manager, First Nations Collections & Engagement at the Australian Museum.

Image: Anna Kučera
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Sam Elsom

Sam Elsom is the founder and CEO of Sea Forest. He is a passionate environmentalist with over 15 years’ experience in sustainability.



Having founded one of Australia’s first sustainable apparel businesses to measuring social and environmental impact across supply chains as well as implementing a satellite factory in India to support poor communities with income, training, clean water and education. Sam was drawn to explore seaweed cultivation for its impressive capacity to sequester CO2 as a potential solution to reverse Climate Change.


Dr Rocky de Nys and Sam Elsom from Sea Forest

Sam Elsom, founder and CEO of Sea Forest.

Image: Supplied by Sea Forest
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Host


Alice Gage is the producer, writer and host of the Australian Museum’s Explore podcast, and editor of Explore, its biannual magazine.

Alice is an editor, project manager and content creator with 15 years' experience in print and digital storytelling. She is a passionate communicator of science, intersections of culture, climate change, the arts and parenting, working across a broad range of formats. She founded and published cult art journal Ampersand Magazine from 2009-2013.

Alice lives on Bidjigal Country with her husband and their two little redheads. She holds an MA in Communications from Melbourne University and a BA in English from Sydney University.


Alice Gage - Digital Communications Coordinator

Alice Gage is the producer, writer and host of the Australian Museum’s Explore podcast, and editor of Explore, its biannual magazine.

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© Alice Gage