Carol Carter: ‘When the Elders in Bankstown were made aware that the BasicsCard was coming there, we wanted to know if there was going to be any consultation, and if they were enforcing it without people’s knowledge. You can’t take people’s rights away. This is our rights and our self-worth, our integrity, that people are knocking down. You can’t be kicking people while they’re down. You need to prop them up and listen to us and have that welfare people do consultations for them to explain exactly what is going on in the areas of the BasicsCard, which is still intervention – no matter what colour you paint it, it’s still an intervention into people’s lives. It’s not on.’